Why pay 400.00 for a space heater,when you can go to Home Depot and buy a elecric heater for 30.00-60.00 that will heat the room better than the "bulbs in a box" heater will.Edenpure is just ripping people off! You just have to decide if the features of the Eden Pure are worth the extra cost over a less expensive space heater. Even your oil or gas-fired furnace does not reduce oxygen because the combustion gasses that go up the chimney are replaced by air infiltration. The key is that the Eden Pure is meant for a certain zone of from 300 - 1000 sq feet depending on the unit you select. Go to the Home Depot, Lowe's, Cosco etc., and choose the heater out of couple of dozens designs they have there. I have not used it consistently 24 hours a day. Zero marketing at that point. Thanks to all of your warnings I will now seek out a nice space heater for around $50 or so and continue to heat my home the same way I have been, just keeping the space heater handy for when I want a little extra heat on colder days. That is the real savings. What a total scam and very disappointed with Bob Vila!! I was just about to order an edenpure heater. The group was formed in 1958 at the old Turtle Creek High School, calling. Crawfordville, FL (1) Daytona Beach (FL) (4) Fort Myers-Cape Coral (FL) (6) Fort Pierce-Port St. Lucie (FL) (1) The EdenPURE performer the same as my $50 Lasko electric heater. He is just whoring for the Edenpure company (or whatever their corporate identification is). That crock of the well-known barnyard commodity doesn't cut it. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 01, 2011: It looks like we are starting another season of the heater scam. Here's examples of how those would work: 1) Say your furnace has a vent that blows all of the warm air straight outside every time the furnace kicks on giving no warmth to the house. But, although our gas savings decreased our electric usage went up and we noticed about a $4 a month savings. Now, that may seem cold to some of you, but no other heater identical to this one is going to do any better and if they are not this safe, you would have to have your central heat on. (FYI: the same goes for room air conditioners.). The space heater is thermally more efficient than a comparable space heater wherein the copper or aluminum has not been pretreated. I just read Steve's reply and had he spelled better I might have give it more creditability. I did buy a small Pelonis ceramic heater 20 years ago for $100, and it still works. Amazon has some of the best prices on heaters and ships right to your door. In the end, remember that electric space heaters in and of themselves can't save you energy and lower your utility bills over the winter. Get them sealed (don't use 'duct tape', go to a Home Depot or other type store or your htg and A/c dealer or service person and ask them what type sealing tape or other to seal the ductwork). Space heaters save money because instead of heating your whole home, you just heat a small space. Look at memy trusty Lasso heater is only $25 and can easily heat a small room. He had to pay 25 bucks to ship it. Its only ment to heat up a small area with a person in it. The air leaks are what causes a large waste of energy. The claims include: There are a few ways to use a portable electric heater to save money: Electric heaters are not an efficient way to heat a home cheaply. You get what you pay for, and many manufactured homes do not put the quality into their heating systems, ductowrk, etc. But keep in mind that based on current national average prices and adjusting for the energy losses due to burning a fuel, heating with electricity is about two and a half times more expensive than heating with gas, the most common heating fuel in this country. That splendid metal, so the story goes, has been incorporated into the design of Eden Pure heaters. The Air King 8132 1500 watt ceramic space heater covers areas up to 150 square feet. EdenPure suggests that "you can turn the heat down in your house as low as 50F, yet the room you are in will be warm and comfortable. Also the actual cost for Endenpure gen 4 is $397 (2010 cost) refurbished 374.00 so there are models that are returned for a savings $23.00. I havent tried other heaters because Ive been satisfied. Second, it does not have any fan that blows hot air into your room, along with all dust and mites that you inhale, getting allergies and respiratory problems. You do the math. A friend of mine purchased 2 after experiencing my heater. I bought Edenpure heater in December 2010 and my january heating bill doubled, and what they sent to me is not what I ordered from them. I feel perfectly safe with the EdenPure and I probably would with the DuraFlame. CLAIM: With the EdenPure the temperature will not vary in any part of the room. After a high-risk surgery, Eric uses his tenacity and faith to relearn how to do everything. Unplugged edenpure. I tune mine up every year with the drop of oil and a little compressed air. No complaints at all. Perhaps another heater would work as well, but this one works real well. Leverage your professional network, and get hired. I was directed to 3 different 800 customer service numbers. Also the heat is much nicer than baseboard heat- it feels warm and it stays comfortable. when you look at the other sales websites they state in stock but edenpures states out of stock so they have to make it to sell it. The filter is as overpriced and useless as the heater. I promise you the payback on this will be much better than an expensive space heater. It seems the less expensive ones will not last as long (20,000hrs vs 80,000hrs, for the more expensive. Nothing has changed. etc. The film, directed and produced by Canton, Ohio native Doug Dearth and starring Logan Huffman, is the classic David-and-Goliath story centered around a small-town football team. I also agree with your opinion on products sold by celebrities. Many people who complain about heat pump performance (it blows cold air, it's expensive to operate, etc.) My Gen 4 burned out in 2 years, Eden pure company claims they will send me new quartz heating tubes but I want Bob Villa here to fix it!!!! I have natural gas heat and now I like it even more. And the glaring discrepancy between SCI's unsubstantiated bulb life claims and what consumers are reporting about the actual bulb life with the Edenpure products shows that SCI's claims have no basis in fact. Connect with Us PH: (269) 428-2723 PH: (877) 494-9357 Contact Us It doesn't mater what's inside the box. So I am not really surprised. The Gen 3 and 4 buyers beware, you're just the new victoms, your heating bulbs will probably be higher, because they are newer and new and improved. I was specifically sold on Bob Vila's endorsement of the product thinking I can trust the home improvement guru. Square feet is the area of floor space, cubic feet is the amount of air in a room. If you read EdenPURE ads carefully, you will note they insinuate you only have to heat the room you are in. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 02, 2011: Bob, my main concern is saving ME money. I have tried 4 different Gen 4's and they were all junk. Conclusion: Bill Burkett acted within his rights and duties as an employee of John Handon. Unfortunately the answer is "No, the efficiency is identical.". The best way to save money (in the long run), is to not only comply with your electricity company replacing things in your home that will give you a lower rate per kwh. Space heater with pretreated heat exchanger Patent number: 7046918 Thank you guys for the info, I was just about to order an Eden Pure, uffff going to walmart to buy a Lasko or anything else like it. And it is VERY safe. Enjoyed reading all the above comments, all valid points, but with all the back and forth opinions, I feel like I've been watching a tennis match. I used to think Alex Trebec was an honorable man, but after seeing him and others like him offer this insurance that IS a SCAM for seniors, I have no respect for him. I don't believe people can stay comfortable in their homes with just a space heater, so I don't believe they'll reduce your heating bills in half. bill burkett heaters. 1500w in one heater is not the same as 1500w in another using different tech to generate heat. Last night it was 24 degrees outside, and inside my living area may have been 60 in the middle of the night, but with daylight, the temp in my living area was 64. Hi everyone . if you live in california, with the EDEN pURE ,PGAETOLD ME THAT IT CAN COST YOU AS HIGH AS 50 CENTS AN HOUR TO RUN IT.my bill is usually 200 in the wintertime,for one month my electricity bill shot up to$360 and i had a saving of $28,gas. Bill Burkett is 70 years old and was born on 09/11/1951. If a portable electric heater serves your needs, a low-cost model will kick out the same heat as an expensive model. Actually, when the Eden uses that copper coil to absorb the heat they're actually deceasing the efficiency of the heater. He's doing this because he thinks its a good product and it is if used in the right situation. My heat gun is about 5 times hotter than my wife's hairdryer. In other words a room measuring 6' x 7'. Most heat guns even have a little twist flap on the back which does this to the heat gun so you can adjust the heat output it has nothing but coving up the airflow to adjust temp. Just picked one from trash. Glad I read all these posts before wasting my money on Edenpure though. No more, no less. You suffer from the "curse of knowledge" (having a bias based on what other people have taught you) . Because heating up a room with electric heat is the most expensive way to do it, simply closing off furnace ducts to unused rooms would result in bigger savings using an EdenPURE, and it would not involve the cost of a new heater. I am filing complaints against EdenPure ad commercials where I can, and working to get my mother's money back! I finally find the place and they said i only had 30 days warranty not 60 days. I'll bet they had a forced-air heat pump. Less expensive models one have tubes. d.william from Somewhere in the south on December 01, 2011: Good article. I am sold on the Eden Pure, but I will have to say I did see one just before seeing this page that is described much in the same way as the Eden Pure Gen4 but is marked down to $219. I'm currently waiting for my new EdenPURE 360, do you have an opinion about this one? I sent it back to get another heater, and GUESS WHAT IT DOESN'T WORK EITHER. There not trying to rip you off or scam you. I also have a $39.99 portable oil radiator heater that I purchased from Lowes. No repairs either. Coo-coo ka-choo, Mrs. Robinson, Mr.Jones has left and gone away, hey, hey, hey." I guess not. I'm sure it puts out heat. EdenPURE claims it uses a copper coil to reduce harsh heat. I did consider the possibility of buying one, but after reading your hub i re-read the brochure and realized that this was also extremely misleading without actually lying. What I do not understand is if the heater is so great why are not the customer service personal returning calls. Standing by it, it doesn't really seem like it is doing much work, but, judging from our reduced power bills, it is doing exactly what these units are claimed to do. I live on a mountain in Colorado. Here are the facts - 1) Duct loss in a basement is not always a bad thing , if your basement is too cold you risk freezing pipes so if the temp. Would i recommend them? What a bunch of scam artists. Complain all you want the heater works well. I called the customer service number 1-888-294-0280 and never spoke to anyone after being on hold for hours and I even left my home number and they never returned my call after being assured they would call. But this time, not only do they have Bob Vila promoting the device, they've added Al from Home Improvement! Unh uh !! Shame--big time--on Bob Vila, since he HAS to know better. Loves them! The EP does not outperform the Lasko. You could heat an inner room to 70 degrees with the EdenPure for maybe $60/month ($0.15/kWh * 12 hrs/day * 30 days) while dropping the thermastat on the rest of the house to 50 degrees, reducing your heating bill by 40% (assuming avg temp outside is 20 degrees) saving $200/month on natural gas, thereby saving you about $140/month overall! My complaints is that I place my order 4 weeks ago still no shipment (endnpure.com states 5 to 10 dyas) & cust service does not respond to email and closed half the time. While at home he is not acting as an agent of the business so his actions were not in conflict with his duty of loyalty or notification. I don't care if my electric bill doubles as long as I can put off ordering and paying this Government Created Shortage of Propane at astronomical prices. Since the same heater at Amazon is under $100 my guess is they lowered their price to compete better. 2) People keep saying a BTU is a BTU and you can't get more energy out of electricity than is put in. Directions to Burkett Heating & Cooling Authorized Dealer & Servicer We are authorized to install, repair, and maintain heating & cooling systems manufactured by some of the most renowned companies in the world. So all the rest is just hype , Shame on Bob Vella. Let me easily explain. list of inmates being released due to coronavirus 2022. A 1500 watt heater is a 1500 watt heater REGARDLESS of how much you promote it or charge for it! If you read it carefully, it never really claims that the Eden Pure heater is a miraculous heat source. First of all, because it is silent. I purchaser 2 EP 2 years ago and they work fine in my 1900sq foot home.I bought them to stop those money grubbing gas companys.I read all you're complaints,and no one had the common sense to understand some people may just want to get the oil money suckers out of their lives. Asked store manager about the eden pure heater and when we looked online, the same 1500 watt unit is rated at the same 5000+ btu's. If you look at the stats, they use far more electricity..the ones I just looked at on the Green Site do and they are not inexpensive. The same method can be used in the walls, ceiling, and floor of a mobile home to regulate its temperature. Think about it, if you heat with gas you turn this thing on and turn the gas down then the increase in your electric bill well more than makes up for what you save on gas. Poor Rita still doesn't get that cubic feet is the area that you have to heat, in a room. Program your thermostat and lower the temperature inside your home so it is closer to the temperature outside. The point that needs to be understood is that any type of room heater that you utilize to perform "zone heating" will save you money. Bob Vila has ruined his credibility with me by endorsing the Edenpure Gen 4,The Gen 3 was satisfactory, the gen 4 is junk. I am preparing to do that now. I do not believe Bob Villa has used one for the main heating in his home, but I do believe he has likely used it for zone heating. Let me first say, I have been praiseing the Edenpure for about 6 years. LMAO, i will say for one i have a ranch style home and its 1800 sq ft and i dont use ne thing but an eden pure except sometimes an additional space heater in my bedroom wich is nearly half my house and i tel ya it does stay war,m i have put plastic and stuff up but in reality i was payin 300 plus a month and now its always under 250 so somthin workn cause i write my monthly bills on a calendar to compare and believe me th thermostat stays off and so do eden pure at nite soo i duno if u got a 3 story mansion i wouldnt worry if ur one level get one is my advice. For your reference, I use Lasko heaters in my home and office. Someone should be going after SCI for false advertising at a minimum. that I happen to agree with. ductwork loses a lot of energy if it is in unheated areas (your attic, your basement, etc.) What a fiasco-I will never purchase anything from Edenpure or anything associated with Bob Villa. A btu IS a btu, weather you use oil, wood, propane, electricity, gasoline, kerosene, camel dung, or a candle to make the heat. I have 1250 sq ft upstairs and 1250 downstairs. Have now started a dispute claim with my credit card company. where is the savings plus spending $900.00 on the units. They are perfect for sleeping. Since electric space heaters convert almost all the electricity into heat, they are all equally efficient. 29/12/2020 . Buyer beware ! My heating bill was $30 month versus $90 in kersosene and the side effects it left.I had to install a heavier wire to carry the amp's but it worked when I needed a heavier heater(1000)I think oil companies will do anything to keep you hooked,my dad(81)spent $800 for a couple months,got a few heaters and saved a bundle. This actually makes their heater less efficient. The USA has turned into a scam hotbed. Movies. The laws of physics, which can't be changed, say they'll both do the same thing. I to have an Edenpure system that I purchased for my basement. In response to my last post, I can afford a 300.00 loss due to this scam, but what about the next person. That's common sense. For the same heat output, electrical heaters are way more expensive than heating with a fuel like natural gas. Oh, yes, and for the guy who said how can the ceramic remove moisture from the air, if you will look, there is only one model that is also a dehumidifyer, so it is both a heater PLUS a dehumidifyer. Jones was last found registered under his obviously fictional name in a cheap motel in the company of a dubious woman. Underdogs: Directed by Doug Dearth. The problem with this, of course, is that you are not saving money by heating the house more efficiently. Bobby Burkett ( Logan Huffman) is a promising quarterback for a struggling high-school football team. Other heaters I've used don't keep the rooms warm because the controls don't allow the versatility that the EdenPure does. Want a great laugh? We bought edenpure in September. I have a Master of Science degree in Electrical Engineering, so I can tell you with precision that EdenPure's claims are false and misleading. You just lay it loose on top so nothing touches it. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 08, 2011: Don, that is why I recommend buying through Amazon so you have their return policy protection. That claim of a 20,000 bulb life in an Edenpure heater is completely false. Some are made in China using cheap bulbs and some are made in the usa. Cubic Feet/Minute is the best measure. I am not so egotistical to refuse to admit that I was taken and that Edenpure sells grossly overpriced junk. This means it produces 5118 BTU of heat. Many heaters like EdenPure claim to "Cut your heating bills in half!". I will never buy another one and will tell others not to, they are well overrated. However, the radiant barrier can't be sandwiched between two objects as the contact point transfers heat away quite nicely. Of course, I was always skeptical, since their full page ads with lots and lots of "information" never mentions the heat output of the unit nor how much electricity it consumes. There just selling an alternative that has good and bad points like everything else on the market. How can 1500 watts out perform 1500 watts? Plugged it in and it ran for about 3 minutes and died. Though I dont know why you would want to. There is no free lunch; you can't get more energy than the source contains. I have a ceramic cube heater I bought 25 years ago for $19.95 that will. BTW, I did see a DuraFlame (the maker of the duraflame logs) had a heater with a description that was practically identical to the EdenPure and it was only approximately $225. Realize that Villa talks about all of the heat loss from the furnace ductwork, then tells you to turn the rest of your house down to 65deg (using this same furnace he rails about)and the EP will keep you toasty, ROFL. Vince DeAntonio ( D. B. Sweeney) is a former college football offensive coordinator, who abruptly resigned five years earlier, and has now become coach at the high school. There are none so blind as those who will not see. Answer: A radiant barrier is a thin reflective fabric. I was going to purchase another EdenPure this year for the downstairs, but after seeing the .25 per hour and calculating the cost, that will not save money. less per month power bill. I am not endorsing any unit of any other just telling my experience with this unit, so do what you will with my comment. Before eden pure electric bill $75.00 and Propane bill (75 gals per month/2.99 = 224.25. total monthly costs $299.25, After eden pure electric bill $135.00 and Propane bill (25 gals per month/2.99= 74.75 total monthly costs $209.75, $347.00 for new Gen4, pays for self in 3.87 months, Don't care about all you "stats" just what my check book says, and it tells me the Eden Pure is working for me :))). Well it depends on what version you get. The same amount of air goes through. Besides I came to the conclusion that you really don't save anything with them anyway. Solve this simple math problem and enter the result. And stop blaming others if you buy the wrong product because you did't do your homework. I put up with very high bills until last year from what is no more than a heater that was supposed to be a heat pump, meaning it runs on heat strips. June 11, 2022 Posted by: when was arthur miller born No Comments. I first spent a few dollars on insulation(extra)it paid off! Emmy Award-winning American news personality Ken Rosato Ken is best known for his work in WABC-TV's morning newscasts. Mobile homes are really bad for heat loss. In addition to that, the new windows, more insulation, more efficient unit(s) will reduce your electricity. After a few weeks it was obvious that this heater is no more efficient than one I can buy mail-order or at Costco for $ 30.00-60,00, so I sent it back at my expense. If it heats, cools, moves air or water, we do it. Saying you might cut your heating bill in half is a lie. I use two in my basement that have been working constant for three years (except for the summer months) and still work fine. I don't know where one of these people learned their math, but a 300 sq ft room is not a 6 x 7. Make sure that your home is well insulated and consider using a radiant barrier. Have sent emails to their c/s area but they never respond. He was telling the UPS lady that he could never contact anyone at the company and what a piece of overpriced junk it was. Some of the comments by others state they have a comfortable house because the bought the heaters and they were 'comfortable'. So, all is not equal definitely. . The big SCAM not mentioned is the advertised life of the Edenpure US-1000 or Gen4 heaters. Well, it looks like EdenPure is at it again, this time with a TV commercial! If you buy one of the cheapies to make do, your dollars are going out the window. I will not call this a scam. I am glad i took the time to read it and all the interesting and informative comments. Edenpure heaters are CRAP. of insurance. Have tried it a few times since after unplugging it and the same thing happens, it will run for just a couple of minutes and it dies. 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